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Bylaw restricting display of vehicles creating lot of concern

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Posted By SARA ROSS, THE PACKET AND TIMES

Posted 1 month ago

For years, car dealerships in Orillia have "taken for granted" being able to prominently display their vehicles along roadways in front of their business, says Bob Brown, co-owner of Thor Motors Orillia Ltd.

With the city now enforcing a bylaw that hasn't been applied for decades some dealerships could find it more difficult to operate, Brown said Friday.

"The protocol... of the auto industry in Orillia is that they've always used that land, so nobody really thought too much about it," Brown said. "We knew at some point we would have to move off the land."

On Monday, Shawn Crawford, the city's chief municipal law enforcement officer, presented a report to council regarding a number of dealerships encroaching onto city-owned road allowances with parked vehicles.

"The City of Orillia traffic and parking bylaw says it prohibits vehicles from being parked on a road allowance for the purpose of displaying the vehicles for sale," Crawford said. "There is a potential safety issue there."

Council approved a policy that allows city staff to negotiate lease agreements with car dealerships to sit on city-owned land. The lease rate must still be discussed, Crawford said.

"The other option is to simply move the vehicles from the car allowance," he said.

City staff suggested the lease rate be in comparison to sidewalk patio leasing, stated the report. Based on five vehicles, the cost would be $1,833 a year plus taxes, it states.

"I'd like to see that lease as low as possible," said Coun. Michael Fogarty. "I don't like changing the rules of the game in the middle of the game."

Fogarty questions why this bylaw is being enforced now when vehicles have been using the property for decades.

"I find it somewhat interesting and I have to inquire about the genesis of it because they've been operating like that for so long," he said. "It makes it difficult for a business to operate."

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Mayo's Service Centre is among five dealerships currently encroaching on city land, states the report.

"I have to use it. I am using it," Gareth Mayo, business president, told The Packet. "I don't have enough room (on my lot)."

Currently, Mayo's has 10 to 15 vehicles parked on city-owned land, he said.

"We've cut way down because of this," Mayo said. "I use to run up a chunk out of 60 cars and now I'm down to a dozen, but it's also because of the market. I've ... lost thousands (of dollars.)"

Coun. Ralph Cipolla says the city needs to work with the dealerships.

"I think we need to co-operate with people who are trying to make a living in our city," he said. "As long as they are not... putting the public in jeopardy, or in danger than I don't see any problem with letting them use it."

Cipolla also thinks the staff recommended lease rate is too high.

"It could hurt them if they have to pay an exorbitant amount to lease the property," he said.

Mayor Ron Stevens says each dealership must be assessed individually.

"We need to look at each dealership on a case-by-case basis because some of them have bigger problems," he said. "Some of them don't have as much room."

With more land at their disposal, Thor Motors Orillia Ltd. is in a better position than some other dealerships, Brown said.

The Gill Street dealership will soon undergo a major renovation. By next spring, they will begin constructing a new building on Front Street South, behind their current lot. The existing building will be demolished to allow the entire V-shaped lot surrounded by Atherley Road, Front Street And Gill Street to be used for vehicles and landscaping, Brown said. The redevelopment will allow them to move vehicles off the city-owned land, he added.

"I think during the redevelopment process, the city would be accommodating to us," he said. "I don't think the city is out to put anybody out of business, but they do want to, at some point, start to enforce bylaws."

sross@orilliapacket.com

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The use of city property at no charge to sell cars must irritate other merchants that have to rent or buy land to run their businesses.

After all, why not park all these cars in Couchiching Park, or at city hall?

With all due respect to Mr. Mayo, his lot is not suitable for what he wants to do with it. And its for sale anyway. He's looking to get a sweet deal so he can sell the property for a higher price.

Post #1 By probably wrong, 1 month ago | 1 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

Once more the Packet has completely eliminated a perfectly good thread. Just as the discussion was becoming interesting. Oh! well I suppose they think it sells more papers. Maybe someday Orillia will get a new paper to give the Packet some competition. That might smarten them up.
jim tolnai

Post #2 By jim tolnai, 1 month ago | 0 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

Once a gain the councillors and bylaw officers dont get that this city should be more than a tourist town with low paying jobs
and what with the no warning and sudden change in the game

Orillia needs to attract investors not push them out with silly bylaws

t

Post #3 By Debra343, 1 month ago | 0 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

These "silly" bylaws stop your neighbour from loading his front lawn with junkers he is trying to sell. A rather large number of the bylaws in town have a solid base of need behind them. They may not impact you but somewhere in the city it was a needed bit of legislation. Much as I think Andrew Street is a bit of a joke at times, they do serve the people on occasion.

Post #4 By westsider, 1 month ago | 1 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

And as an addendum Debra, you can go ahead and invest all the money you have and even get some from the developement people and start your own business and employ hundreds if you wish to. You sound like a person who lost their job and wants to blame everyone else for the position your in.

Post #5 By westsider, 1 month ago | -1 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

Its not unemployment in Orillia its under employment .
lets face it , everyone is driving old cars and working two low paying jobs jobs
and the city by laws inspectors if they arent picking on Restaurant owners for sign infractions
yes most bylaws are needed but this situation has always been like this and he is now interferring with the business . and to say its because its a safety issues , how stupid does he think we are to believe its now a issue
could it be someone want to use the land , a secret reason .
and if he is moving out who will fill that gap , or is it another empty space
next thing the downtown core will be filled with dollar stores and cigeratre shops and empty stores
seems if the city by law officers werent in the papers about parking matters or complaints about wordng on restaurant signs we would never talk about the downtown

Post #6 By debra343, 1 month ago | 0 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

It seems to me the by-law officers are getting in the paper too often for reason of interfering with business.
they are there to support the city's needs not walk around with new complaints and of course how many meeting will they have about this and how much will this cost the city in wages
I think there is more to the reason behind the complaint
now its a safty issue yeah we all all that stupid

Post #7 By debra343, 1 month ago | 0 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down
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